Suboxone - Is A Storm Looming?

The article is usefull for me. I’ll be coming back to your blog.

Hi, very nice post. I have been wonder’n bout this issue,so thanks for posting

Hi, very nice post. I have been wonder’n bout this issue,so thanks for posting

I have a question-if I have been taking about 40-50mg of percocet a day for 4 months should I go it cold turkey or do I need suboxone help? If I go cold turkey how long would the worst of the withdrawal last? I am a stay at home mom of 4 and need to have an idea what to expect-I need to still be able to care for my children. Thanks for any info you have….

I also find this very interesting. I was addicted to Vicodin and was put on suboxone starting at the lowest dosage then the Dr. kept uping my dosage to now I am on 16 mgs. Because my health insurance RX plan met my yearly limit already I am forced to pay for the suboxone in full about #330.00 so I have no choice other then to start cutting back slowly by 1/2 a pill for 2 weeks at a time because I can’t afford the high price medication after having also to take a cancer med for breast cancer i had in 1996. I feel that my dr could have been more responsible for prescribing more and more without questioning I was just getting use to it trading one adicting drug for another. Wish me luck

Great what did I get involved in, I really screwed my self haven”t I?

I had surgery on my right knee 09/13/07. After it was obvious my surgeon had made my knee much worse he tells me my only option is joint replacement.It is a workers comp issue so it is still dragging on. First I was on Vicodin then Percocet.I commented to my “pain specialist” that these drugs were starting to control my life he told me about suboxone.Of course I wasn’t told anything negative about it.(Like it did nothing for the pain). Now my knee operation is coming up and I HAVE to get off this awfull stuff but still there may be nothing to help with the surgical pain during the few weeks after my new joint is put in. All because I too suboxone (up to 32mgs for 6 months). I am down to 3mgs now and really struggling. Chuck

Great post, I am very interested in this issue since I have been on suboxone for several years now and am having a terrible time trying to get off of it. I am down to 4 mg a day, but if I only do 2mg, start to feel bad by end of the day. I am so scared it will be years before I feel better again! I agree, I do not think they know enough information about this drug!

I HAVE BEEN ON SUB FOR OVER 3 YEARS AND WANT SO BADLY TO GET OFF IT BUT I TRUTHFULY AM SCARED TO DEATH TO DO IT! I HAVE BEEN TRING TO TAPER ON MY OWN BUT SOMEDAYS I HAVE TO INCREASE MY DOSE AGAIN BECAUSE OF MY PAIN LEVEL. I WILL BE CHECKING OUT YOUR SITE REGULARLY FOE ANY MORE INFORMAITON I CAN FIND. THANKS!!!

hey, this article really is the truth. i have been on suboxone for 2 years now and been on it with 2 pregnancies and im still on it for that 2nd pregnancy and i gotta say that i went out of state on vacation and went 2 days on a lower dose of sub than i am used to and i felt terrible!!!! almost worse than when i was on the morphine and oxys! no one ever told me that i would feel that terrible on just a lower dose! i dont want to imagine what it will be like when i come off of sub completely! I agree that you should definetely know what your getting into when you get on suboxone folks!

I have been on suboxone for nearly a year. I never took more than 4 mg. per day. I started to taper myself off of it several months ago. The last month I’ve been down to 1/2 mg. every 12 to 15 hours. I ran out yesterday and just hit about 24 hours. Does anyone have info on what I’m in for? I’ve read some real horror stories online and would like some honest feedback. I really can’t afford the Dr. visit and prescription anymore so its time to kick it.
Hey Chuckfromelk. Your situation sounds exactly like mine. My knees are shot, my right one is alot worse and I had surgery last November on it. Only made it hurt more. Now I have to decide about replacement and what to do about my left one. I could never get any Dr. to adequately treat the pain, so I wound up getting it elsewhere. Now I’m afraid to take anything.

Some of us even don’t realize the importance of this information. What a pity.

Just wanted to say that your blog has been so helpfull to me! I was on the dr jekle mr hide crap for a year,when my doc got extremely busy and hard to see I decided to quit the suboxne on my own cold turkey.I use to have a etreme vicoden habat and was perscribed suboxne well its been two weeks I cant sleep and there is more…. how much longer do I have to look forward to this

1 1/2 years I have been taking. Dr. kept upping my dosage and I found myself nodding all the time. I couldn’t drive a car for more than 1/2 hr. before I would have to pull over and sleep at least 30 min. When I bring my problems to the table, I’m told its better than what I was doing (percs and methadone) Is it really? I’ve been reducing my dose weekly, I’m down to 1 mg 2x day (my doctor is still precribing 4 mg 2x day) I have enough saved I won’t be seeing him for awhile. Each visit was costing me out of pocket $250. and I have full insurance. My doctor will only take cash for the doctor visit. Tell me this is not a racket. I’m crying right now because I now the the truth, my journey is just beginning for the detox that will work for me. I am so pissed that I was not given all the information up front!!

Well to comment on what Sharon and many of you who have said (thanks so much for the posts!), there’s some good news. Although it may feel as though you’re trapped in the Sub Box, there is a way out. It takes a bit longer than opiates, for sure BUT, I don’t want people to get discouraged and become claustrophobic. I have heard many positive stories of people getting off Suboxone and ending up just fine. My fundamental issue is with the clinicians who do not tell their patients that when they come off of Sub that there WILL be withdrawals and they will be prolonged. So don’t lose hope folks, it’s reasonable to be angry but don’t get discouraged because you’re not locked into this stuff for life if you don’t want to be.

i love suboxone it has saved my life. every drug has side effects if it keeps me off the streets and keeps me from eating 90 norco a day when nothing else would it is a mirracle

This stuff is SHIT!! A crutch at best and a Doctors(or Pharmacueticals) deception at best. While the withdrawals are not as intense as Cold Turkey from opiates; they are much more lengthy(I’m on day 31) and noy worth the trouble. Today I have severe anxiety, busy brain and SLEEP issues. Take the 5or6 days of hell over what I still don’t know when this will end

I have been on suboxone for four years. I realize now that I switched addictions. I had taken hydocodone for 14 years, only four a day for 12 years. Then I increased to norco and stopped at 70mg. ( 7 pills a day) I tapered off of suboxone and after almost four months, the receptor sites opened and I was in bed in a severe depression for 20 plus days. Now I am taking 8 mg. suboxone a day.
I am going to rehab. because I can’t tolerate the depression! Subox is a great drug, however, it should be used for a short period of time. What a mess I am in at 58 years old!

My son is on Day 12 OFF of suboxone. He continues to feel awful. When will it end? Does it just continue as PAWS? For how long?

I am fifty one years old and have been on suboxone for 3 plus years. I was a heavy drinker for 30 years and also addicted to perc and Oxy after 3 hip replacement surgerys. I have been completely clean since taking that first suboxone in May 2006.Suboxone saved my life and Marriage. My kids and Grandkids love me now and I will never go back to alcohol and drugs. The cost and withdrawel factor of suboxone is a separate issue and not an option for me at this time. Hope this helps someone

Hi Craig. I think you have the perfect mindset for someone who has resolved to take Suboxone just like one would take high-blood pressure medication or any other medication for a chronic condition. I applaud your recovery and I think if you are OK with being on Sub for the long-term then that’s totally fine by me. Thanks for posting!

I have rethought the rehab issue. If I can remain on subox8mg forever, I will. I appreciate the comment from Craig. I have never been a drinker, but I was addicted to hydrocodone. Suboxone is better than pain pills and withdrawl. Yes it is expensive, but worth the cost of comfort and “feeling normal.” I have numerous pain issues that will be with me for life! So if I get thru detox, the pain will drive me back to pills.

I was a heavy morphine abuser for a few years until I found Oxycontin…2+ years and sick and tired or being sick and tired I sought a Suboxone Dr. through a friend…great guy, just had a loose script hand if u catch my drift…
80mgs+ a day habit? “Here’s 24mgs of the Orange Devil”
Can’t sleep? “Here is 50mgs of seroquel”
Wanna quit tobacco? “Here is some Chantix”
Little Depressed? “Here’s some 300mgs of Wellbuterin”

I went from happy go lucky opiate (pills) addict to FULL BLOWN DOPERLIKE (suboxone) and ZOMBIE (all other rx)
I was getting HIGH off suboxone every morning and I knew it…bought more off street to “supplement” my script

After my initial 24mgs to start (redonkulous btw, only multiple relapsed IV dope addicts should start on that much)…and I truly believe there is a “ceiling” effect capped @ 12mgs. More is wasteful

Way easier to get off most DOC than to switch over to suboxone…DOC w/d = 5 days of true torture, then 6 of mild depression/insomnia
Suboxone w/d is 2 months minimum with another 4-6 of serious PAWS

Happy to say I said “F-this” and jumped off a 6mg a day habit…been clean from everything for 31 days and never looking back. Unless you’re a pain patient, u have t eventually look yourself in the mirror and say “enough is enough” and push that monkey off your back and start LIVING (there is more to your life than just you)

Good luck, and check out subsux.com (it saved my life)

I should state I was stabalized on 8mgs for well over 2years (suboxone only, no relapses)

You should NEVER be on suboxone for more than 2 months and never more that 12mgs a day (take the extra pills and save for taper/bad days*)

I found jumping at such a high dose useful because it was so horrible I would laugh out loud = NEVER again

Worst.drug.ever.

OMG!!!

I attempted to taper myself off the SUB from 16mg a day to 8 to 4 to a few days of just 2mg. Then, I was out! I had to call off work for three days now and feel absolutely terrible! The only thing that’s helping me sleep is Valium and a glass of wine! Not the smartest thing, but, the sweats, chills, goose bumps, headaches, insomnia, diarreah, restlessness and depression is not wprth it!! I rather suffer now then again later.

Will there ever be a “normal” feeling after I go thru withdrawal? Why is it that I feel “normal” when taking 2mg of suboxone everyday? Will I ever get that back without the suboxone?

Yes. It may take months but yes your brain will return to normal function. There’s no literature that shows any long-term negative effects of Buprenorphine on Brain function. But wait, wasn’t this what you were trying to avoid in the first place by taking Suboxone? I’m sorry you have to go through this; it’s not fair.

TO ALL- I was sold false info about sub as well. I have a 38 yr. history of migraines- it was inevitible i’d get hooked on opiates. I went to sub Dr.- outlined the course- yes, at outset- it’s a miracle-BUT- I had a kidney stone- NO PAIN MEDS COULD BE ADMINISTERED. After that incident, I stayed off subs for 6 days- no ill effects. Then last march of 2009, I decided to wean- what a nightmare- all the classic symptoms of W/D for over 3 WEEKS! I had to start all over again. I then have searched the internet for a WEANING SCHEDULE FROM THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY– IT DOESN’T EXIST. I am now in my 2nd day of cold turkey- SO FAR SO GOOD- BUT I KNOW WHAT AWAITS ME DOWN THE ROAD. I am very angry with the doctors- they are of no help in helping me wean- my own DOCTOR EVEN HUNG UP ON ME BECAUSE I HAD TOO MANY QUESTIONS AS TO HOW TO WEAN. Beware of what you’re up against. Now I have to “take myself out of “life” FOR UP TO 3 WEEKS BECAUSE IT WAS EASY MONEY FOR THE DOCTOR TO LURE ME IN- BUT ABANDONED ME AT “CRUNCH TIME”!! I AM REALLY PISSED!!

I would first like to say take a deep breath! reading all of the negative posts are not the most helpful thing u can do… I have been an opiate addict for over 5 years using most anything u can think of. At my worst i was snorting over 250 mg of oxy a day, then i tried the the methadone clinic, (bad idea)did that for a year or so then atarted using again after about 2 months. used for about another year and then started subs. now i have stopped taking subs after just about a year and have not used anything else in the mean time. try to remember the desperation u felt when u decided to go on subs, yes u might have to deal with the withdrawals for a bit but would u have ever stopped talking to ur dealer if u didnt start subs? today is my first day off of subs but i have tapered myself down from 8mg a day to about 2 mg a day over time. when i quit methadone i went through a good 30 days of hell and i remember reading the same types of posts from people who were feeling like shit, just remember that the people who are doing good are not on the computer looking up withdrawal symtoms they are out living there life. a very good friend of mine who was the worst addict i have ever seen is now doing better than anyone i have ever seen. NEVER give up hope, and remember that when going through ur worst days that time always passes, no matter how shitty u feel that clock is still ticking and it will be over eventually with a more fulfilling life at the end. i honestly hope this heps some of u out there and i strongly encourage anyone with a positive story to share it, we need to hear from u guys the most!
Dan 23 in WI

well like everyone eles o0r most i was a hydrocodone user for pain for 2 collasped ear drums very bad migraines…well i got better but coundnt get off the hydro,,,so went too suboxone been on it a year just last week went too dr.s for re-fill and check up…sign on door!SORRY CLOSED TILL FURTHER NOTICE now thats just unethical to but people on a program and leave them hangin i been withdrawing now for days i had a 4 yr old 5 yr ol and a 12 yr old and a husband who works alot dunno what too do!!

Alright. So i just read through a few posts. FROM MY OWN EXPIRIENCE …. i’m outright stupid! i kicked suboxone after just 3 months! The first week was DREADFUL and the following month was horrible. Than i was back to normal. BUT 3 months later i had an offer and began taking subs again. Now i’m going a year straight on them. I’ve tried kicking my habit 2 times in the past year and i’ll torture myself for a week and start back up again. It’s impossibile for me to do my day to day things (work, etc.) while withdrawing from subs. I was reading about something called the waismaan method or accelerated nuero-regulation. You’r admitted into the hospital and it’s a couple day process were you sleep through withdrawl. And supposedly during your constant sleep in that couple day period, the withdrawl process is sped up and by the time you wake up, a few days later, withdrawl is supposed to be completely over with and you should feel normal. I have never heard about this before, no idea if insurance covers it, what hospitals do it, or what the cost if insurance doesn’t cover it… but maybe it’s an idea for people to look into. I know i’m going to. I hate waking up every morning have to take suboxone just to have motivation to get my day started. It sucks. I’m at the point again where i’m ready to lower my doss until i’m done to none but i’m terrified i’m going to start back up like the past two attempts…. i just don’t know how to get through withdrawl. Any suggestions? as far as something that can knock me out when i can’t sleep and feel like ripping my skin off of my body? (regular sleeping pills don’t work and i don’t want to do hard drugs - that would defeat the purpose) or something that i can take when absoulutley necessary to just get motivated to get going with the day?
Any suggestions would help. In the meantime i’ll be looking into that hospital treatment i mentioned … hopefully someone else will find that helpful too.

CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION?
CRAZY and the wrong way to go BUT is it possible to stop taking subs, than let a few days go by, (my addiction was percocets) so let’s say… stop taking subs for a few days, than start taking percocets for a few days than stop cold turkey? ha, probably really stupid BUT i’m wondering if that would be an easier way to get through the withdrawl? OR since subs is already in my system for so long would that idea just not work?

Ive tryed Methadone didn’t work sick of wasting 70 dollers on one 80 OC Thinking about trying sub. But I know I need something everyday to function and feel good. If I can act normal and feel good the rest of my life on sub, I will. I was on 270 mg split dose methadone for 1 1/2yr Rehabed cold turkey in Jail and almost ripped my own eyes out and killed my self. I know what withdrwl feels like. Thats why I never will feel another withdrawel again because im just going to stay on sub. Better than the rollercoster ride my lifes on right now. What do you guys and gals think about that? This is my last hope.. seriusly! 7152800923

Hi Jimmy. I think you have a good attitude about Suboxone and your battle with opiates. If you are ok with being on sub for the rest of your life and you have the means to do it, then by all means do it! Some people don’t want to be on Sub permanently and when they started taking it, they had no idea that they would have withdrawals getting off of it. That’s why some people are mad. But I think that based on your description of the situation, if you can stay on sub and keep off everything else while leading a normal, happy life then that’s a really really good thing. That’s just my opinion and others may feel differently but I think you’re doing the right thing and have the right outlook about it. Good luck to you.

You may precipitate withdrawal but I HAVE thought about that strategy before. It’s a good question that I don’t have an answer for. I’ll ask Dr. Earthman about it and get back to you. Haha…the irony!

Wow that absolutely sucks! Have you tried the Withdrawal-Ease? It won’t take the withdrawals completely away but you’re better off with it than without it. I’m so sorry that you have to deal with the little ones while you’re going through this too; that is really horrible. Hang in there and eventually it’ll pass.

iev been on suboxone for about 5 1/2 months it worked great up till about 2 weeks ago i sometime take 8 mg but for the most part just 4 to 6 mg i have gotten real deppesed and had all simtioms of anxitey and im trying to quiet suboxone on my on buy weaning down to 2 to 1 to a half of 1 is that smart or should i cold turkey it. I want to no will the withdrawal-ease help and what does it do, if i can get some good feedback it would be great but for all the bad feed back iev seen shur makes me more deppressed i hope thiers some good answers thanks everyone for beening onest anyway.

I was addicted to pain pills for a year and went into methadone treatment for a year going down slowly, now i have been taking 2mg. of suboxone (roughly every day) for a week and a half. should i stop now or use it to weaken the withdraw symptoms from the methadone. The 2 mg. of sub doesn’t take all the symptom away. does anyone out there have any ideas?

you have my attention with this withdraw ease.I have been on sub for 4 years got me out of alot of trouble i feel good because sub. but, theres always the but i know the feelings of sub withdraw and i tried to ween off time and time again but to my frustration FAILED FAILED FAILED.I want to Know more about this product before i send 90 dollars like what does it do for the hellish anxiety!!!!!!!!!!

the only way ,and best way to get off suboxone is.I was on 600 mgs of oxocontin for 3 monthes.My doctor told me to take 24 mgs. of suboxone daily.Dont ever listen to your doctor.I waited 24 hrs and started at 12 mgs. subox.after 3 days i went to 8 mgs. for 3 days.then to 4 mgs. for about a week.then 2mgs. for about 3 monthes then 1 1/2 mgs for a week ,then 1 mgs for a week ,then to vicodan .I started with about 4 vikes a day for about 5 days.then the withdrawal was very bearable if none at all.Only problem was sleeping and nobody ever died from lack of sleep.This is the only way my friends.

I am a physician who became addicted to most opiates, I was miserable and always in withdrawal. 3 years ago I got started on Sub and the docs almost o.d.’ed me with 16 mg the first day. I finally discovered that of all the docs who prescribe this drug virtually none of them know it well. I did well for the last three years on 2mg twice a day. Whenever I went for more than 36 hours I would start withdrawal. I have been off for a week now and have been anxious and yawning and have a runny nose - I am sure you know what I am talking about… I got a script for Clonidine and Imodium and those help a lot with cramps and severe agitation. I have tried to find someone very experienced to determine the true length of the withdrawal, but as with the dosing issue, it seems there is no reliable information available. The company R-B was of no help whatsoever, they do not want to talk about long term use of Sub for fear the FDA will pull their approval. I like many others on this site feel Sub probably saved my life and certainly my life has been better than doing illegal things to get my fix. But it would be nice if things could be more open and less haphazard, I think most of us would just be happy to have some reliable information. I agree with George’s ( and other’s) comments that some people may be better off just staying on Sub permanently, the only pressing issue may be financial given the lack of insurance coverage for many people. Best of luck to you all whatever you decide to do. I will update you on the course of my withdrawal.

hey i take 8 mags a day for 2 maybe 3 months now will i bee sick if i stop???

I’ve been on subs for a little over 2 years. I did try to taper down & naturally i started to get sick. I started seeing another doctor. He upped my dosage until i started feeling ok. I’m at 2-4 mgs & I’m doing pretty good on that. However I was totally mislead & I totally assumed that i could get off, well we all know how that story goes…but is it that bad? I’m not running the streets with my kid in the car chasing down the dope man…I’m not paying his bills and I’m able to take care of my young daughter. She doesn’t have to be put thru my b.s. being a junkie mom..I can & have held down the same job for the last 2 years…so is suboxone all that bad? I have a “normal” life & so does my innocent daughter..She damn sure doesn’t deserve a junkie mom…So considering the alternative…I will cross that bridge when it comes..Sometimes you gotta do whats best for your child so she doesn’t grow up & follow that Hell road..P.S. I don’t have insurance either but isn’t cheaper than chasing down the dope & spending your kids food money up your arm???????

Hi Wendy and thanks for the comment. Like many of the other comments here, you happen to have a very good outlook on things and there’s no reason to think that your strategy is a bad one at all. In fact, I think that -as you point out- the alternative to Sub is far worse. So if you are OK with being on Sub and it allows you to live a normal life hereafter then that’s great! My post was directed to those that were mislead as you were and DO want to get off; they don’t feel as though they have a good alternative and it’s frustrating. Good for you for getting your life back and having a healthy perspective on Sub; I think in your case ongoing/long-term use of Sub is very appropriate.

I am an alcoholic and opiate addict (somehow this mix gave me incredible energy), anyway been on sub for 2yrs now. Dr. started me at 8mgs 4 times a day!! Now know that NO ONE needs that much a day, but def. helped me stay away from alcohol and roxys (substituting?!) Don’t think any of this is good for long-haul, nevermind the ridiculous expense. Have tried to wean, and have but 3 days without and feel worse than I ever remember opiate withdrawal being!
I am with R88—I have been without sub 4 days now and am going to take low dose of opiates for a few days and see if this is a better approach to cut down long sub withdrawal. At least I’m not the only one to have this insane thought…..I’ll let you know what happens.

i’ve been taking sub for almost a year and i must say that i agree that it is a “miracle drug” i was taking about 5 or 6 oxycotin 80 mgs a day and 20 vicidin or percacet would last me not even a whole day. i believe that sub has probably saved many lives! i was givin sub when i went to rehab for 28 days and thats before i knew you could get a prescription for it. i was clean after rehab for about a year and when i say clean that also means sub free!!! well those people, them places and those things that i was warned about so many times in rehab and n/a meetings met up with me and caused me to relapse and my life again went in a downward spiral. a friend told me about getting a script for sub and 9 months later i’m still taking it with no problems at all. i’ve also read that people have stopped taking the sub cold turkey after being on it for a long period of time and experienced very mild withdrawl symptoms. i take 2 and a half a day and can go 2 days without taking it and experience no withdrawl symptoms..unless proven otherwise i have to disagree with your theory but thanks for the info and i’m going to ask my doctor about what i just read..thank you so much!!! shellie from ohio

I agree with Wendy.I was shooting smack for 20 years and on and off methadone for over 10 years.The methadone just did not work! I would start fixing again and just have to do more which I was willing to do.Even if I try to fix while on the sub. it does not work .Sub. really does block the heroin.Works for me!MW

This is truly alarming to read all this about Sub. I thought this was a cure for me to get off my $9 dollar per month oxy habit which is prescribed for my fibromialgia(only $9 because insurance will cover) My Insurance will not cover my Sub which is costing my $7 per day so that is over $400 per month instead of the $9 that I have been spending on my legally prescribed pain killers. So my question is… can I now after only one week on Sub can I stop them and go back to my pain meds? It would save money and I would feel about the same? Thanks

Been on Sub for a little over 3 yrs. For the 1st yr all was great & Sub even helped w/pain from my Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy. (Maybe Sub caused this illness?)BUT, after about a yr, it just didn’t work any longer, and I dropped into the deepest, darkest hole of depression that you can imagine. Whenever I told docs about Sub not working, they instructed me to take more instead of getting off of it. About 6 months ago I started tapering from 24g, but I’ve been stuck at 4g now for the last 6 weeks. No matter what I do, I can’t seem to go lower. At this point, most of my withdrawal is emotional/mental.The fatigue, apathy & depression is beyond being helped by antidepressants or any other med. Sub has also caused several other medical conditions that will affect me for the rest of my life. (Totally destroyed my appearance.)When I can find bits of short-lived motivation here and there, I’m trying to find a law firm to pursue a case against the company. I won’t go into details, but my life was/is severely damaged by Sub. I lost so much that I worked so hard to achieve for years. I have completely run out of Sub in the past, and the severity of withdrawal symptoms is terrifying. I do NOT exaggerate this! I’m still trying to taper off completely,but how long will I have to suffer like this? Before Sub, I was successful, had a great attitude, was healthy & attractive and had aggressive plans for a wonderful future. I’m absolutely nothing like the person I was before Sub. I’m like a caricature of my former self — so distorted with just enough resemblance to know it’s me.I no longer have any quality of life. In fact, it’s not even a life. I just barely exist.

I have been an on opiates for over 15 years. I have tried the methadone clinic: 5 years in total. I was preganant and detoxed from methadone 2 times, finding that after I gave birth, I had forgotten the hell that opiates cause. I started snorting oxy, morphine, using phentenyl, and vicodin for a kicker when I was 15. I then was sick and introduced to dilladid, heroin and a needle. Then I became an IV user for 10 years total, not counting the methadone detox in my 5th month of pregnacy twice. Methadone was harder to kick than heroin in my opinion. I found that all of my friends that were tired of using went to suboxone, I did the same. I became stable on Suboxtone for 1 year tapering from 16mg to 1mg to nouthing. I am preganant and do not know the safety issues. Has anyone been prescribed suboxtone while pregant. I am so scared that I am too late in my detox and my baby will suffer. But after the methadone pregnacy detox, I knew that any earlier than trimester 2 could lead to miscarrige. I went three days off the SUB and became so sick that I took another sixteenth, which miraculously helped. But the guilt was too much, so I havent took any now for another two days. I need some advice and support. Any reply will help. Is there any chance that it will not be so terrible since I have tapered off correctly?

Hi Lin. Unfortunately, I’m not a doctor and don’t have any experience with partial agonists and pregnancy. Is there an obstetrician you can go and talk to?

I took subs for 8 days and quit,8mg down to 2.It worked for me,I would never take subs for a long period of time,it is similiar to methadone wich I was on for 10 years.I took oxys to get off meth and subs to get off oxys.I had to take oxys for 3 months to get off of meth but it was worth it.Meth ruined my life long term.It is not easy but can be done.

I am down to 4 mg a day of sub.I am weening myself can I take the withdraw ease while I am weening off sub

I was on this junk for 1 year and decided to wing myself off. I want you to know how painfull this junk is. I felt like my arms would fall off thats how bad they hurt. Not to mention my legs. I could NOT sleep at all for 2 whole weeks. This stuff is nothing to play around with. The withdraws are worse than any drug you could think of. At times i wanted to give in, just to stop my pain. But Im happy to say Ive been clean for 4 months and it gets easier as time goes by. I still feel the effects of it but Ive learned how to control my withdraw.I just want people to know how hard it truely is to come off this, and im still living with my withdraws.. I will over power this demon, and i hope you can also….

I was in withdrawl for three days and finally last night i gave in and took 2mgs because i was so desperate for sleep. once that 2mgs wears off is the sickness going to start all back over again. or will it just count as a night of sleep? Please help me, I am so lost I could cry. I have support but no one really understands.

I’ll email you…

Thanks Craig, your comment helped me a whole lot. I’m freakin out on some of these comments. I had planned to be on Suboxone for the rest of my life but now I feel a little bit discouraged. I’ve been on it for about a year and doing very well. I don’t know if I should stay on it or get off of it now before it’s too late. I have been on 10mg hydrocodone for 7 years taking around 20-30 pills a day. I tried to quit cold turkey and did so for about 3 weeks. I never felt like I did before the hydrocodone. Everything seemed fast, still got the chills, agitation very badly, and so depressed. I’m 29 and have 3 kids. I can’t go on living life like that. I can’t go through withdrawals with kids. I don’t know what to do.

Hi Tonya. There’s no need to freak out. If you are prepared to be on sub for the rest of your life and you are doing well on it then by all means stay on it! As I mentioned, there are a lot of people who are prescribed Suboxone for what they thought was going to be an easy weening off process and it turned out to be harded to get off than the opiates…that’s what people are mad about here. If you want to stay on Sub for the rest of your life, there’s no harm in doing that.

Wow. I had no idea it was going to be this hard to get off this crap. I’ve been considering over the past few days to just stop taking Suboxone, though after reading this and some stuff on SubSux.com, I’m not sure it’s a good idea. I’m only on 2mg/day, which was hard enough to come down to. I’ve been on this stuff for about three years and I’m tired of spending so much money on this crap.

But, what do I do? I can’t afford to lay around missing work because I’m withdrawing. Ugh. Three years clean and I feel like I’ve just gone back in time.

I am now 54 years old, and I too have a similar story. I was on sub for 1 year after having been on opiate pain killers for less than 2 years. The amount I was taking got up to over 100mg per day before I went to the sub doctor.
Before that, I was off pain killers for about a year and a half after being on 40mg of hydrocodone a day for over a year after a lower back injury. (1st addiction)

I have been off sub for almost 3 years now, and I feel that I have never fully recovered from that sub addiction. I never got back the life and natural energy that I had before the sub treatment. The worst of the withdrawals lasted a full 4 months. Only after then did I begin to feel like doing things again, but I still had periods of weakness and fatigue that persist to this day. I fear that there may long term effects that no one knows about yet.

The sub doctor prescribed only 1/2 pill every 6 hours (4mg), but looking back, I’m sure I could have done with half that. The doctor never even hinted that sub could be addictive. I only discovered it when I tried to stop about 3 months into the program, and found my symptoms worse than opiate withdrawals.
I tapered down over a long period of about 6 months, taking only 1/2mg ONCE DAILY at the end of that time. That did not help much, as I still felt withdrawals during the tapering time, and then worse when I finally ran out.
I’ve read that there is a “maintainance” amount of sub that must be determined and taken regularly by each individual after the opiate addiction is gone, suggesting that the drug is intended for lifetime use. If you want to get off suboxone, I suggest you find that maintainance amount and then taper down quickly from there over about 30 days. This will shorten your withdrawal time, but you’re still in for a long ride. If you could keep back some sub pills or opiates for when things get rough during withdrawals, it might help. But you would probably have to limit it to once every week or two, and enlist the help of a loved one. I don’t know if or how well this would work, as there is no way I could have done it myself. I had to be completely out before I could do without. I personlly believe that opiates would be better for periodic relief, which takes me back to the first addiction.

I got off hydrocodone the first time without sub after almost a year and a half of addiction. My doctor released me after I refused to have back surgery. Pain management refused to prescribe anything, so I went cold turkey. It was rough for 1 month. The second month was better, but I still wondered if I would ever fully recover. I told myself “I guess this is how it is now”. But in the third month I began to feel my life force and energy return. By the end of the 3rd month I felt as good as I ever had.

From experience I suggest you don’t go on suboxone. Taper down on your opiates. There’s no easy way out, but you’ll get through it. And remember, Jesus loves you and He wants you to be happy!

I too am like many above. Too much hydrocodone, then on Suboxone for about 3 years now, 6mg/day. The problem is that whenever I feel myself fading, I take 1-2 mgs and I feel great, almost like when i took hydro. So in a sense I’m still friggin addicted, pisses me off.

Has anyone who’s left comments tried the withdrawal -ease? I feel like i’ve turned into a drug loving sloth these past 3-4 years I still think about the Suboxone all day long ! Would be nice to hear from anyone who’s not selling Withdrawal Ease to give feedback on it. Thanks !

I have been on subs now for two years! and was livin in the upper north east of new york, i recently moved to the philly area, and have not had a sub in almost 5 days. the withdrawls are awful, and all i want to do is go get high. i have no health insurance and no one out here that i know that takes them! I’m stuck and need help…???? anyone with good advice? to help me through this time?

I have taken sub for six mths and neva have enough. I was neva told this was what it was, but now i see why i cant kick it. i keeep going back to Lts bc of the pain, the insomnia, its the worst thing ive ever endured. where is the light at the end of the tunnel. is there one?

Hi,
My doctor prescribed me Oxycontin for injuries resulting from a car accident. This was before all the problems came out. I quickly was addicted and it wasn’t long before I was taking between 40-60 Percocet a day. I couldn’t afford this habit and then I was introduced to Heroin, I was withdrawling bad and it was there and alot cheaper and lasted a lot longer. At that time in my life the decision was easy. My life quickly spiraled out of control and I woke up and was facing Prison time. Never been in trouble before, had a house, 2 great kids, husband and a dog. I lost my house and had to move in with my parents. My husband has to live else where. I am on extensive probation. I have tried to quit before this several times but could not get through the withdrawl, cravings, and pain. I started Suboxone and I don’t think about using any drugs now and have no cravings what so ever, and it helps with my chronic pain. I am worried about the future but it is helping me stay alive and out of prison for now. I have done a lot of research and most has been favorable but with most things there usually something. I guess for now it is working for me and when I come off of it hopefully I will be off of probation. I have heard both good and bad coming off suboxone, but everyone said it was a lot easier then Methadone.
O

Thanks for your time.

One other thing I only got a “high feeling” the first two days, I really don’t feel anything but normal now.
Shannon C.

I had cancer 5 years ago and the chemo gave me severe neuropathy. I have been on mscontin ( morphine) all of that time. I absolutely hate it. I started at 60mg three times a day. This year I have been working hard to get the dosage down. I got it down to 7.5mg three times a day. But I still have the neuropathy. I can take that pain ( well most of the time). But I can’t take withdrawals and the neuropathy together. The whole body cramps from morphine withdrawals kills me. I was thinking about suboxone but after reading this I don’t know any more. I also have diabetes and hep C. Taking morphine everyday is going to kill me. I am back up to on my dose, sometimes 30mg sometimes 15mg depending on the pain level. I have to get off but how to do it? Anybody have any ideas?

i would like to hear from someone who this has actually helped, i am really considering on trying it but want more proof that its just not another scam.

I think some of you guys may be missing the big picture here, suboxone is not a magical miracle drug, its a damage control drug, a crutch, the lesser of a lot of evils if you will. I was a heroin addict for many many years and when i was introduced to suboxone I experienced stability for the first time in many many years. Im not robbing and stealing or lying,cheating and manipulating my way into the next fix. when its time to get off suboxone titration should be done very very slowly and i mean slowly.

Good point Bryan. For some people Suboxone is a good option. But you aren’t the garden variety Vicodin addict like many of the people who are being prescribed Suboxone. Every pharma manufacturer will try and widen the indications for their drugs beyond what is reasonable and this is just another one of those cases.

I lov’d reading everyones posts it’s still nice to know there’s alot of people out there with the same problems. I went to the doctor about 8 months ago I heard about sub. and was told it was a miricle and all the BS. My quack doctor actually told me that in about 6 months it would cure me i would loose my craving for the opiates if I stayed on the sub. and live long and prosper or something along those lines it’s 8months later and I’m doing a hell of a lot better but I really dont want too stay on this drug forever if this stuffs helps i’ll try it. I probable will be on sub. for a long time though i’m a longterm Oxy and morphine addict 7 years i’m only 24 but I was pretty out there I used I.V for about 3 years now and this sub. is better than the alternative of being strung out but I think there’s another way and I hope we all can find it we all deserve a little serenity.

I was told by my doctor that Suboxone was a miracle drug and non-addictive. And boy, oh boy was that a lie! I’ve been seeing doctor for years so when he told me this I totally trusted him.

For roughly 2 years I was addicted to Loratabs, hydrocodone, and somas. I was taking about 20 of each a day. So when Suboxone was introduced to me of course I was willing to try it, I was desperate. Well now I’ve been on Sub for 3 years and I’m trying to get off, but I can’t. I’ve been on 2mg a day for about a month now and the last 3 days of h*ll with zero. Will I ever feel normal again? I don’t know how much longer I can do this. Should I give in and go to the doctor for another script of suffer for who knows how long……..

I have been on sub for about a year. I just tried to taper and I have really bad anxiety. It did help me, but now I keep thinking that I will have to take it for the rest of my life. If it helps me to feel “normal” then why not. I have children to take care of.

I have been on oxy contin off and on for the last 9 months. The last month or so i was snorting 80 mgs a day. My question is should I take suboxene for a week or so to help w/the withdrawals? Or should I just suck it up and go cold turkey? I was going to take the subs for a couple weeks and slowly decrease the amount every day but after reading all the comments I’m very confused. Also is it bad to drink while on subs?

My husband has been an addict for 3 years now. We’ve tried everything from rehab, NA meetings, methadone, to suboxene. I’m about at the end of my rope here. He’s agreed to actually get a prescription for suboxene and start the treatment, but after hearing all these horror stories, I’m not sure if this is the best way to go. He’s never been on suboxene consistently. He’s just had the few here and there every so often with pain pills in between. Can you tell me what the main reason for taking Withdrawal Ease is for? Are they just for suboxene addictions or are they a much better alternative than suboxene all together?

Hi Kelly. Withdrawal-Ease is a different thing entirely from suboxone. Withdrawal-Ease is meant to do one thing and one thing only: Reduce the severity of common opiate withdrawal symptoms so that people have a better chance of succeeding during detox.

Suboxone is a maintenance drug that helps very severe opiate addicts who cannot control their addictive behavior and are therefore in need of a substitute for their full agonist opiates (Heroin etc.) Suboxone helps these people regain function and hopefully live a somewhat normal life free from opiates. However, as I mention, Suboxone is WAY over prescribed and your husband is a good example of someone who does NOT need to get on Suboxone in my opinion. He needs to detox and then get ongoing addiction therapy if needed. From what you describe of his behavior, for him to go on Suboxone therapy would be like applying a full body cast to a sore thumb.

If you want to detox with Subs as you have been then I would highly recommend that you do so under a doctor’s care. That way he/she can administer the right dose at the right time and get you off of the Sub in a coordinated fashion.

WOW, this is mind boggeling. I feel for us all. Ive been on the Subs for 2+ys, prescribed 3 a day and take 1 a day. I sell some to pay for the visits, but I’m saving a nest egg for the time I’m going to tell the doctor “I don’t need you anymore”. It has helped me go from vics, perks, and oxys. I would chop them up, mix together and snort them every time. I was doing oxys for about 5yrs. and 6yrs. on perks. Oh yeah did I tell you I could drink like a fish. I used to drink alot when using the opiots. Now I don’t even have the urge to drink. When I first went on the subs they prescribed me 4 a day. I started taking 3. After a week or two I was getting headaches so I dropped it down to 1 a day. I take it in the mourning before I go to work like I am taking a multi vitamin. The past few months I have been taking a half in the mourning and if I start feeling like shit I take the other half. Just when you think you might be feeling better the “PAWS” kicks in. I am 31yrs old, Ive been at this for a long time now, about 10 yrs. I know I’m doing alot better now than I was. I just hope some day I won’t need to take a pill to make me feel normal.

Hi Samantha. Your pregnancy complicates things since it’s probably not good to be on opiates or the like when pregnant for obvious reasons. In any case, it seems that you have probably tapered off of Sub too quickly. From what I’ve heard, Tapering off of Sub should takes months of very precise dose reductions. It’s not like other op-iates where you can do it over a few weeks…I would ask your obstetrician if going back on a small dose of Sub might be ok while you are pregnant. I’m not a doctor so I do not know. But it seems to me that you need to taper more slowly if you are feeling this poorly.

What are the ingredients? I’d like to see a list posted along with dosages. Most of these sorts of products are scams and those that are not - well, the individual ingredients can typically be purchased separately at at lower prices, higher dosages, and superior qualities.

Therefore, I shall remain skeptical and suggest all other do so until you feel comfortable posting your ingredients prominently on your website.

I could not find them - if they are listed and I am wrong - I apologize.

IronGleet

all i did is take perks at work because every body has them on a construction site but after a while i needed them just to work so i got help by a doctor or should i say legalized drug dealer who gave me subs. It was the worst thing i could have done. they are terrible to try to get off . Its been 26 days of hell i cant sleep ,i have no energy also i never felt so depresed thank god my wife loves me she is the only person i told what was going on and she is standing by me but i dont know how long I can put her through this. SUBS are nothing but a money scam on desperate people tring to better there life

Ive been taking suboxone for over 2 yrs now, it sucks! I feel like a slave to it, just as I was to the dope. Although it is true, I have been able to hold down a job and an apartment for the whole 2 yrs., couldn’t do that when I was gettin high. Ive just don’t have the passion or energy for life that I once had. I have tried to detox from suboxone 3 times, failed everytime. The last time was 2 weeks ago,Iwent 10 days cold turkey, it was awful, I just couldnt get right ,missed a week of work and started drinking just so I could get off the couch! No sleep, nauses, restless leg and arm syndrome etc,all of this I could deal with, but the depression and lack of energy, I could not. I went back on the suboxone and am back to “normal” and work. I dont want to live like this anymore, I want out. If your thinking about starting suboxone for opiate withdrawl or matainance, I strongly urge you NOT to, its like prolonging the sickness. Seriously I feel like Im gonna have to go back to treatment for suboxone.

Here you go. I’ve actually made a point of discussing the ingredients because I’m proud of how comprehensive the formulations are and think that the history behind some of these herbs is interesting.

http://www.withdrawal-ease.com/product/specific-product-ingredients/

Hello, I have been on suboxone for 8 months now started at 32 went to 16 then tried 8 a day. I was sicker then I ever was withdrawing a intro heroin/oxy addiction just from lowering my dose. I saw my Dr and she put me back on 16 a day which costs me 480.00 a month. Now I am addicted to the orange devil just as I was with heroin and worse withdrawl symptoms no one ever explained the withdrawl. I had to have emergancy surgery last month. The worst pain I have ever had becuase of the suboxone I did not feel the demoral or morphine. This is why I am trying to quite. I have tried everything even taking a couple of percs a day to help the withdrawl symptoms. But, I am starting to give up and go back to the orange devil becuase I can not function, sleep, shit, depressed, absolutly no energy. Please if anyone knows a way even illegal please tell me about it. I am so depressed and sick I can’t stand it anymore. Please help

Suboxone saved my life. I was addicted to opiotes for five years, in the last year I was taking 8-10 oxy 80’s a day. Plus xanax, klonopin, soma, ambien, whatever. Within a week of starting suboxone at 16mg a day I was back to ‘normal’, whatever that is. I’ve been on sub for a year now, and am beginning a gradual taper. If it gets too bad, I’ll level off, but I will never go back to oxy.

This is my 8th day off sub. The doctor always wanted honesty,UA and counseling but could give me anything on withdraw. I quit because it was 125.00 doc visit, 143.oo UA, 150.00 counseling, and 221.00 for script. Yes and I called him for a break this month, to just call in the script and no way. This is far worse than vics or oxys withdraw. IT is great it someone else pays for it. Even so the damn arogance of this doctor is worth a lawsuit.

I am a single dad I had open heart surgery and was given pain killers Well I was not to return to work for tweleve to sixteen weeks but being a self employed contractor I returned to work in six weeks with help from pain med well I couldent get any more med so I started getting sick I went to a three day detox they gave me sud three times a day for the first day two sub the next day and one on the third day I felt great and they sent me home two days later I felt like I was going to die so I returned to detox and went thru the same routine and went home slowly I became sick again so I heard on the radio about sub I went to the doc as I look back I think I was his first rat he gave this to because he had know idea what he was talking about or doing any way two years later I am on the same dose I started with so today I was on line and saw the add for withdral ease and started to read everyones stories does it help I dont know but I will try anything to help with the pain of withdrawel my advice to any one thinking about sud dont do it and if you do TAPER IT ONLY FOR TWO WEEKS well any way I heard of a one day treatment it costs alot of money tweleve to fifteen grand I will let you know if it works I know there will be a class action suit against these drug companies

My husband was put on Suboxone when he went to rehab to get off of prescribed Vicodin taken after his 3rd spinal surgery. At first it seemed OK, but after 1.5 years he was up to 16 mg per day and was completely lethargic. Of course he continued to take Xanax at 4-6 mg per day and I expected to come home to find him dead at any time. He was better off on the Vicodin.

Recently on a Dr.visit they saw that he was unsteady and basically intoxicated. He went to rehab to get off the Suboxone and hopefully to get off Xanax over time.

It has been 3 weeks and he still is having panic attacks and is a wreck. He is taking a host of meds and Seroquel at night to sleep.

After reading numerous posts I believe he should have weaned himself down, but I guess he couldn’t do that himself. No hospital will keep you long enough to wean you slowly from Suboxone so it is up to the individual. Not an option for an addict of his type. The Seroquel seems to be just as bad as the Suboxone for him.

He’s 58 years old and we have been together since our teens. I am about ready to give up. Every time I hope to have the man I married back, my hopes quickly fade. Thank goodness I have a support group that helps me live one day at a time - most of the time.

i can tell you this, Ive come heroine and methadone and Suboxone has the equal or worse withdrawal symptoms. im on my fourth day clean and i havent slept yet. i know a friend that it took 20 days for him just to stop throwing up. this is some serious stuff,so be careful and stay on it as short as possible.

7 days on sub 8mg will their be any withdraw

I have been going thru withdrawls for a week now! I had to go to the hospital last Friday night, totally out of control.. i could not sit still and posturging! they had to give me Atvin, two does I am still not right after a week, major withdrawls (I guess) HELP HELP!!! This is not what I signed up for! Any sugestions? I have only been on Sub since Sept…one 1 milg and nof off for about 6 days! Any sugestions will help!!!!!!

I have been on subutex for 3 years and I am on week 4 of weening down. I have been in long term withdrawals for the entire month. I am hearing that its gonna take another 2 to 3 months for just the withdrawals to stop not including the next year or so trying to get my serotonin levels back up. I am extremely discouraged about my hopes of getting off. This drug NEEDS TO BE SEEN FOR WHAT IT IS!!! do not get on it for short term opiate use. This drug may help people who are long long term users, but even then not for 3 years.

For the good of the world, if I could wish it done, I would have osama bin laden live the rest of his life on withdrawl from Suboxone. I have gone through many joint replacements in my life. I became addicted to Oxycotin. January of 09 I went into an almost comatose state. I was rushed to the hospital and was treated for an overdose. I kicked that stuff with just a little bit of withdrawls. I went to pain Dr. for ongoing pain in my back. Rather than going back on the Oxy, I was prescribed Sub. Been on it since last July. I ran out of it March 24.For the love of GOD, hell couldn’t ant worse than getting off this stuff. I did not sleep for 11 days. Not a minute.I went to the pain Dr. yesterday for a refill. Feeling a little better today. Withdrawl’s from this stuff is the most horrific thing I have ever experienced in my 58 years. I am glad this site was here. Starting now I am tapering off this stuff forever. Has anyone got any tips on cutting back? I can up to 6 mil a day. I took only 4 today. How soon do I taper off again? Thank GOD this site is available. THANK YOU

After reading all the info regarding Suboxone I am getting very worried…I just started on this 1 week ago, should I get back on the Vicoden and slowly get off of that?

To add, I am already abusing the Suboxone..I start out great then I am using too much of that!

i have been on suboxone for two yr’s. started at 24mg’s a day. now after two yr’s, because of me i am down to 4mg’s a day. my doctor would not help me cut down at all !! i am from plattsburgh,ny. i am down to 20 pill’s.after that,no doctor.s i am goin to rehab in virgina, i am just going to show up at a hospital and find a detox then rehab. if rehab helps me get off them and i feel good cool ! if not? i will go to a half way house and get off them. i can not take it any more. go to rehab on the state man, they put all of us on this **** be cool and let them help us. and listen, if your suboxone sick go to a hospital,not in plattsburgh,ny.they will not help you at all unless you say you are going to kill yourself.sad but true my dear friend’s. i am 50 yr’s old.lost child hood girl friend to heroin 3 yr’s ago. i have hit bottom and licked it!!! to many ******* times ! any one wanting info how to get help this way mail me at dsdubmon1@hotmail.com good luck to all of us, see man us. we are not alone with this.

I was on suboxone for bout 20months, been off for bout 3weeks and still withdrawing! This is the worst and I think what about long term problems from this drug?! I would rather take the heroine withdraw… yea I have not used my drug of choice when I was on subs or even still! I thought I was clean…. yea right if I was then why the worst withdraw of my life!? SUBOXONE is a drug! I knew it and still know it! For anyone thinking of taking this don’t stay on it to long! Addiction sucks and in my world the orange pill made it worse! Good Luck to anyone fighting an addiction! It’s the fight of your life for your life!!! Believe that!

i have a bad back, been on 40mg of perk,160mgoxy, 10mg valum a day for better part of 15 years, then decided to get help. went to a sub doc and got a script. got kicked off after 7 weeks for smoking bud.decided after my care coach was pleading with me to get back on subs, that i dont need this shit!why trade one addiction for another right?been clean for 5 days and i feel like shit.BUT after reading this stuff, and finding out that the longer i would have stayed on, the more fucked i’d be,i’m never taking that shit again!some good herb has been helping me cope with the insomnia crazies and anxiety .and that shit is all natural. no drug company’s getting anymore of my money!that is the motivation i will use to beat this thing,when i think like that i feel good.(feels like i’m getting over on the man) stay positive and thirsty my friends and quit letting these drug companys run you’re lives.quit living out of a pill bottle!legalize!!!

its doesnt sound good what am reading here I was on tramadol for like five years and if you have never taken tramadol dont start even though its not a narcotic the withdrawls are the worst but am on soboxone now it works and i feel ok when am on it taking sixteen mg per day but i know that i will have to one day get off of it..i wonder how many days does it take from your last dose before you feel the withdrawls..am afraid to get off of subs but i wont be able to afford them forever but if i could i would take them the rest of my life just like vitamins how many days before the withdrawls kick in

Reading all this I am wonering if it’s not better to take the Withdrawal-Ease straight off the hydro. I take approx. 15 a day and I want off, so I was looking at Suboxone. But it sounds worse than the hydrocodone withdrawl.
Will the Withdrawl-Ease help with the hydro withdrawls as well?

how long does withdraws from syboxone

From one drug to another from meth to opiates to Emphetimenes and saboxin what next? Im so tired of living my life a lie..im so sneaky only a few people know what I do I go to work energized and hard working now its gotta end… I have just recieved my withdrawl ease today im very excited about quiting saboxin..I ben on sabox for 3 and a half years now and i have tried quiting cold turkey about 2 weeks ago and that was a big FAIL..2 days i felt fine and the 3rd day it hit me at work hot n cold sweats,diariah, i felt miserable my legs started aching,,,So tomorow will be my first day with out nothing ill be taking the withdrawl ease…After reading aout this pill im hoping it will ease the withdrawls im so tired of wasting money on these saboxins..I agree there just another addicted drug there terrible. I just wana be back to my normal self wish me luck ill be leaving a comment in a week to let every one know how it goes…

I was taking Bananas,7.5’s perks quite a few a day. I was almost out & was having problems getting more at that time. A friend gave me less than a 1/4 of a suboxone. It was like energy to the max! Now 2yrs later was still taking suboxone everyday, 8mg usually 2 halfs a day. I don’t know how anyone can take more than that, its fn strong! I had noticed & others said to me, why are your hands shaking so much? I knew I had a problem. I had to take it always, esp if I had a busy day. Then when I got home I had to drink to come down, it was too much. I needed knee surgery so I would be out of work for 4-6 weeks. I decided it was a good time to stop. The begining was soooooo hard!!!! Nautious, diarea, insomnia, no appetite,lack of energy, much congestion in my head & ears etc! after a week I started taking some perks, just to help with the nausea. My DR had prescibed viocadin for my knee surgery, but thats like taking tylenol. I am weeing off the perks, only 5mg. just taking half a day now but think I’m gonna beat it! My appetite is good now, still have a tiny bit of the runs, but am still alittle lazy, esp in the AM. Its been 3 1/2 weeks since I have taken suboxone. I feel like I will be OK!

the way i had taken sub to get off of herion was i took 4mg then another 4mg 2hrs later then every 2hrs until i got up to 14 mgs for the day. did that for 7 days then on the 6th day I took 2mgs every 2hrs till i got to 8mgs for the day for another 7 days. then on the 3rd wk took 2 mgs every 2 hrs till i got to 6 mgs and did that for 2wks and then for another week after i completed those 2wks I took 2 mgs for a week and was done and never experienced really no withdrawl . but if the 14mgs for the first 2days is not enough go up to 16mgs.

I IDENTIFY WITH SOOO MANY OF YOU. I’M 20 YRS. OLD… STARTED TAKING HYDROS RECREATIONALLY : NEVER PRESCRIBED ANYTHING EXCEPT A SMALL AMOUNT OF HYDROS, AFTER ADDICTION HAD STARTED) : STARTED TAKING ABOUT 3 OR SO OF THEM ONCE IN A WHILE; RECREATIONALLY W/ FRIENDS AND FEELING GREAT. OVER A 1 YEAR PERIOD 3 HYDROS TURNED INTO 5, THEN 5 TO 8, AND SO FORTH. ONE DAY I LITERALLY TOOK 18 HYDRO 10mgs AT ONCE. BY THIS POINT, (EVEN 18!) HYDROS DID NEXT TO NOTHING FOR ME. THIS IS AROUND THE TIME I REALIZED I HAD A PROBLEM. HYDROS TURNED INTO MORPHINE, THEN OXYCONTIN, THEN OPANAS (OXYMORPHINE: THE BEST FEELING, BUT THE ABSOLUTE WORST WITHDRAWAL) AND EVENTUALLY EVEN TRYED HEROIN SEVERAL TIMES. BASICALLY, I WAS SPENDING ABOUT $60 AT LEAST ON AVERAGE EVERY DAY BUYING PILLS JUST TO KEEP FROM FEELING HORRIBLE. IT WASN’T FOR FUN ANYMORE, BUT AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY TO KEEP FROM FEELING HORRIBLE. SUBOXONE ABSOLUTELY HELPED STABILIZED MY LIFE, AND ITS MUCH CHEAPER THAN THE ALTERNATIVES TO BUY AROUND HERE. IVE BEEN TRYING TO TAPER OFF MYSELF WITHOUT HELP OF ANY KIND OF REHAB, PROGRAM ETC. AND FIND IT EXTREMELY DIFICULT AFTER ONLY USING IT FOR APPROX 4-5 MONTHS. EACH DAY I START WITH A LOWER DOSE, BUT SOME DAYS I FEEL I HAVE TO DO MORE TO AVOID THE DEPRESSION, EXHAUSTION AND MODERATE PAIN..(PAIN WHICH NEVER EXISTED BEFORE TAKING PAINKILLERS).. IT HAS HELPED IN MANY WAYS AS OF LATE BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY STARTING TO FEEL LIKE I TRADED ONE ADDICTION FOR ANOTHER, ALMOST AS BAD AS BEFORE. ARE THERE ANY CHEAP OR MAYBE NATURAL WAYS TO HELP EASE THE WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS? HELP WOULD BE GREATLYYYY APPRECIATED!
-JORDAN-

So much that has been said here is true. Sub is no joke, but for some can be a life saver. we can all say “I would take 4-5 days of hell instead of this withdrawal from sub” but take it from someone who has tried to quit cold turkey, taper from drug of choice, and from sub we can always say we can do it and when faced with actual uncomfortableness of withdrawal you would do anything it get it to stop. Less is more with subs. We have learned with many trial and errors that it is best to use it as little (time wise and dose wise) as possible. Because of the incredible half life it can trick you. Don’t stay on it longer then 6 months taper quick as soon as your comfortable. The last 2mg are the worst but start spacing them out every other day. Most of it is in our heads we all have had a horrible fever, stomach flu, virus and have lived through it. We can all do this too!!! And life will be so much better on the other side…..you will have your choices back no longer a slave to a pill!!!

I am so sorry for all who are suffering and I will be praying for u all. I was addicted to pain meds,loracets, vicodin, loratab, and also soma and xanax for about five years. Everyday running to the drug dealer wondering and freaking out about when I would get my next fix. I not only ruined my life, but my kids life, my husbands, my whole family. The drugs had me stealing in every store I walked into. I finally got caught after 5 years,with my DAUGHTER with me!!! After that I said enough and got on suboxone. It really did save my life and made me myself again. My family no longer fears for my life. On the other hand, Ive been on it for 2 and a half years now, and Im scared to death to go without it , or even leave the house without it, even for an hour. My first doctor did warn me that I could be on it for the rest of my life, that was my first doctor. Now im with another doc and she says she will probably keep me on it for another 2 years and then she says shes going to cut me off COLD TURKEY! Im scared to death. Even though I feel like it did save my life, I feel like a slave to it and I dont want to go through what you all are calling paws. Ive never heard of that term until now. Anyway, at least I know im not alone anymore. Also anyone that prays, will u pray for me?

I was addicted to oxycodone 30 mgs about 20 a day and fentanyl patch 50 mgs for about 4 years. I went in for detox, cold turkey, about 36 hours into detox I went into a coma because of the withdrawls, made it through got out and relapsed. Thats when my doctor gave me Suboxone, I have never taken more than 4 mg. Was on in it for four months, got off relapsed again for about 2 months. I went back on Subxone 4 mg, took it for 6 days, tapered down, I am 52 hours in without any suboxone or meds and I am feeling some minor sweats and anxiety, but other than that I can function. It comes in waves, I will have energy and then feel crappy. DO NOT TAKE SUBOXONE FOR MORE THAN A WEEK! I will never take this stuff again after reading all this crap about it!! Good luck to all!!!

how long does it take befor u can feel a pill after taking suboxne?

Hi Jason. It could take up to 2 weeks if we’re being technical about it. This is the KEY danger with suboxone and overdose. Even though you may not “feel” the percocets or Vicodins or whatever you are taking, your body still has to assimilate it. Do NOT try to overcompensate or take more to combat the Suboxone….the best thing that could happen to you in that case would be nothing or precipitated withdrawals…the worst is death. If you are going to go back to full agonist opiates (which I do not recommend of course), then you need to start out with a very low dose.